Legislature(1995 - 1996)

01/26/1995 03:35 PM Senate STA

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               SENATE STATE AFFAIRS COMMITTEE                                
                        January 26, 1995                                       
                           3:35 p.m.                                           
                                                                               
  MEMBERS PRESENT                                                              
                                                                               
 Senator Bert Sharp, Chairman                                                  
 Senator Randy Phillips, Vice-Chairman                                         
 Senator Loren Leman                                                           
 Senator Jim Duncan                                                            
 Senator Dave Donley                                                           
                                                                               
  MEMBERS ABSENT                                                               
                                                                               
 All Members Present                                                           
                                                                               
  COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                           
                                                                               
 SPONSOR SUBSTITUTE FOR SENATE BILL NO. 19                                     
 "An Act relating to the location of the convening of the                      
 legislature in regular session."                                              
                                                                               
 SENATE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 2                                            
 Relating to reimbursement of expenses for residents who travel to             
 the capital city to attend legislative sessions or to testify                 
 before legislative committees.                                                
                                                                               
 SENATE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 3                                            
 Creating the Long Range Financial Planning Commission.                        
                                                                               
  PREVIOUS SENATE COMMITTEE ACTION                                             
                                                                               
 SB 19 - No previous senate committee action.                                  
                                                                               
 SCR 2 - No previous senate committee action.                                  
                                                                               
 SCR 3 - No previous senate committee action.                                  
                                                                               
  WITNESS REGISTER                                                             
                                                                               
 Senator Drue Pearce                                                           
 State Capitol, Juneau, Alaska, 99801-1182¶465-3755                            
   POSITION STATEMENT: prime sponsor of SCR 3                                  
                                                                               
 Bill Miles, Aide to Senator Pearce                                            
 State Capitol, Juneau, Alaska, 99801-1182¶465-3755                            
   POSITION STATEMENT: prime sponsor of SCR 3                                  
                                                                               
 C. S. Christensen, Alaska Court System                                        
 303 K. Street, Anchorage, AK 99501¶264-8228                                   
   POSITION STATEMENT: testified on SCR 3                                      
                                                                               
 Pam Neal, Alaska State Chamber of Commerce                                    
 217 2nd Street, Suite 201, Juneau, AK 99801¶586-2323                          
   POSITION STATEMENT: in favor of SCR 3                                       
                                                                               
 Jack Fargnoli, Office of Management & Budget                                  
 P.O. Box 110001, Juneau, AK 99811-0001¶465-4678                               
   POSITION STATEMENT: testified on HCR 3                                      
                                                                               
 Chuck Achberger, Juneau Chamber of Commerce                                   
 124 W. 5th Street, Juneau, AK 99801¶586-6420                                  
   POSITION STATEMENT: testified on SB 19                                      
                                                                               
 Jamie Parsons                                                                 
 2218 Emily Way, Juneau, AK 99801¶789-9201                                     
   POSITION STATEMENT: opposed to SB 19 and SCR 2                              
                                                                               
 Charles Northrip, Juneau Economic Development Council & Small                 
 Business Development Center                                                   
 400 Willoughby Ave., # 211, Juneau, AK 99801¶463-3662                         
   POSITION STATEMENT: opposed to SB 19 and SCR 2                              
                                                                               
 Chip Wagoner                                                                  
 3294 Pioneer Ave., Juneau, AK 99801¶586-1867                                  
   POSITION STATEMENT: opposed to SB 19                                        
                                                                               
 Brad Pierce, Office of Management & Budget                                    
 P.O. Box 110001, Juneau, AK 99811-001¶465-4660                                
   POSITION STATEMENT: testified on SB 19                                      
                                                                               
 Judy Erickson, Capital Information Group                                      
 P.O. Box 021804, Juneau, AK 99802-1804¶586-3118                               
   POSITION STATEMENT: opposed to SCR 2                                        
                                                                               
  ACTION NARRATIVE                                                             
                                                                               
 TAPE 95-1, SIDE A                                                             
                                                                               
 Number 001                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN SHARP calls the Senate State Affairs Committee to order at           
 3:35 pm.  The chairman asks permission of the committee to                    
 introduce bills on behalf of the committee with the understanding             
 that a draft copy of any bills introduced would be circulated to              
 members at least a day prior to submission to the Senate Secretary.           
                                                                               
 There is a brief discussion about the Chairman's proposal, but no             
 objection is raised.  Therefore, the chairman's proposal is                   
 approved.                                                                     
                                                                               
                                                                               
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       SCR  3 LONG RANGE FINANCIAL PLANNING COMMISSION                       
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN SHARP brings up SCR 3 as the first order of business                 
 before the committee and calls the first witness.                             
                                                                               
 Number 050                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR PEARCE, prime sponsor of SCR 3, notifies committee members            
 that there is a sponsor substitute in their bill packets, and notes           
 that Chairman Sharp has suggested it be introduced as a State                 
 Affairs Committee substitute.  Senator Pearce thinks, with                    
 declining oil revenues and an increasing fiscal gap, long-range               
 fiscal planning is becoming more important.  It is the intent of              
 the House and Senate presiding officers that SCR 3 and HCR 1 give             
 the legislature something on which to focus.  These resolutions are           
 not perfect, but they are on the table and we are open to comments            
 and suggestions.  This issue needs to be taken up now.                        
                                                                               
 Number 105                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR PEARCE states there are eighteen entities which formally              
 support SCR 3: the State Chamber of Commerce, Anchorage Chamber of            
 Commerce, Alaska Oil & Gas Association, Alaska Municipal League,              
 Common Sense for Alaska, National Federation of Independent                   
 Businesses, Resource Development Council, and others.  The senator            
 informs the committee that, although she cannot speak for Governor            
 Knowles, the governor does support the concept of a long-range                
 financial planning commission.                                                
                                                                               
 Number 122                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR PEARCE informs the committee that the sponsor substitute              
 for SCR 3 was prepared to incorporate suggestions presented by the            
 governor.  The difference between the original and the substitute             
 are: page 2, paragraphs (2) and (3), specify that one Senate member           
 and one House member be from the minority; page 2, line 22, specify           
 that one of the public members of the commission be the                       
 chairperson; page 3, paragraph (9), change the reporting deadline             
 from 1996 to October 1, 1995.                                                 
                                                                               
 SENATOR PEARCE thanks the committee for scheduling SCR 3 and asks             
 for their consideration of the resolution.                                    
                                                                               
 Number 151                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR DUNCAN asks Senator Pearce if the Governor agreed to the              
 provision that all administration members have a non-voting                   
 membership.                                                                   
                                                                               
 SENATOR PEARCE replies the administration wants the commission to             
 have more public members than members from the legislature and the            
 administration.  The governor feels he will have a direct voice on            
 the commission through the public members, which he will appoint.             
 We did not want the commission to be dominated by people who are              
 already in public service.  Those members are there to be a                   
 resource to the commission.                                                   
                                                                               
 SENATOR DUNCAN states he will double-check with the governor on               
 whether the governor approves of administration members being non-            
 voting members.  Senator Duncan thinks there should be a stronger             
 voice from the administration on the commission.  He asks if the              
 members specified in the resolution are the ones appointed by the             
 governor.                                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 195                                                                    
                                                                               
 BILL MILES, Aide to Senator Pearce, responds he just received the             
 substitute for SCR 3 and has not yet sent a copy to the governor's            
 office.                                                                       
                                                                               
 Number 198                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR PEARCE adds that the members designated in the substitute             
 are the same as were designated in the original resolution.                   
                                                                               
 Number 205                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR DUNCAN asks why the commission is required to report by               
 October 1, 1995, but the commission continues until January, 1997.            
                                                                               
 SENATOR PEARCE replies that is probably an oversight, and the                 
 commission should probably be disbanded after the final report,               
 unless there is interest shown in having the commission do                    
 additional work.                                                              
                                                                               
 Number 218                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHRIS CHRISTENSEN, General Counsel, Alaska Court System, states he            
 has not had the opportunity to review the committee substitute for            
 SCR 3, only the original version.  Since the commission is intended           
 to be a state planning commission, and not simply and executive             
 planning commission, the judicial branch feels it should be                   
 allotted a seat on the commission.  Mr. Christensen asks that the             
 judicial branch be included in the long-term financial planning               
 commission.                                                                   
                                                                               
 Number 237                                                                    
                                                                               
 PAM NEAL, Alaska State Chamber of Commerce (ASCC), states ASCC                
 supports SCR 3.  In fact, ASCC's number one priority for the 1995             
 legislative session is fiscal planning to identify and employ                 
 innovative solutions to the state's budgetary problems.  However,             
 ASCC would like to offer some suggestions: technical experts should           
 not be members of the commission, but should just serve the                   
 commission in a support capacity; review of state programs should             
 include evaluating all services the state currently provides and              
 identifying those traditionally provided by a state to its'                   
 citizens; identification of services not traditionally provided by          
 a state, and which therefore could be eliminated or restructured;             
 and insuring services are being provided efficiently and                      
 effectively.  Only after Alaskans are assured that the state is               
 providing just traditional government services, and these services            
 are being provided efficiently and effectively, should the state              
 look at other fiscal tools, such as increased taxation.  Ms. Neal             
 thanks the committee for allowing ASCC to present their ideas.  Ms.           
 Neal has provided the committee with copies of her testimony and              
 copies of the ASCC resolution supporting long-term financial                  
 planning.                                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 290                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS remarks that his constituency is opposed to            
 the creation of another commission.  His constituents suggested               
 that groups in favor of the commission volunteer to fund it.                  
 Senator Phillips asks Ms. Neal if the ASCC would contribute funding           
 for a long-range financial planning commission.                               
                                                                               
 Number 303                                                                    
                                                                               
 MS. NEAL states she has not seen a fiscal note for funding the                
 commission.  But speaking of government responsibilities, she                 
 thinks it is the government's responsibility to fund their own                
 planning.                                                                     
                                                                               
 SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS states his constituents think the executive            
 and legislative branches should be doing long-range financial                 
 planning in the first place.  In addition, why not have volunteers            
 do it, instead of spending the money?                                         
                                                                               
 Number 315                                                                    
                                                                               
 JACK FARGNOLI, Member of the Policy Staff, Office of Management &             
 Budget, states the governor supports the objectives of the                    
 legislation.  But Mr. Fargnoli says he cannot offer an official               
 position at this time since they haven't seen the proposed                    
 substitute yet.  The governor is happy to work with the legislature           
 on this legislation.                                                          
                                                                               
 Number 340                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR DUNCAN asks Mr. Fargnoli if the governor has seen the                 
 proposed substitute.                                                          
                                                                               
 MR. FARGNOLI says he has been told that the governor's office has             
 not yet seen the committee substitute.                                        
                                                                               
 SENATOR DUNCAN comments he thinks the governor should have the                
 opportunity to provide input before the resolution moves forward.             
                                                                               
 MR. FARGNOLI responds that the governor definitely would like to              
 see the proposed committee substitute.                                        
                                                                               
 SENATOR DUNCAN asks the chairman if SCR 3 will be held in committee           
 until the governor has a chance to respond to the committee                   
 substitute.                                                                   
                                                                               
 Number 341                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN SHARP replies that SCR 3 will be held over for                       
 consideration at the next meeting of the State Affairs Committee,             
 which will be on Tuesday, January 31, 1995.  Some of the                      
 suggestions made by witnesses today will be considered.                       
                                                                               
 Number 347                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR PEARCE states that many of the questions brought up at a              
 meeting earlier this week with the governor's office have been                
 addressed in the committee substitute.  Senator Pearce appreciates            
 the committee holding the SCR 3 for further work, and notes that              
 the resolution will have to have a Finance Committee hearing since            
 there is a fiscal note attached to it.                                        
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN SHARP announces that SCR 3 will be held until the                    
 committee meeting Tuesday, January 31, 1995.                                  
                                                                               
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         SB  19 LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS TO BE IN ANCHORAGE                       
                                                                              
 Number 368                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR SHARP brings up SB 19 as the next order of business before            
 the Senate State Affairs Committee and calls the first witness.               
                                                                               
 Number 373                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS, prime sponsor of SB 19, states SB 19                  
 relates only to the legislature convening during regular session in           
 Anchorage instead of in Juneau, and is not an entire capital move.            
 SB 19 complies with the FRANK (Fiscally Responsible Alaskans                  
 Needing Knowledge) Initiative.  Should this pass, the legislature             
 will begin meeting in Anchorage in January, 1998.  Those are the              
 main components of this bill.                                                 
 Number 386                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHUCK ACHBERGER, Juneau Chamber of Commerce, asks that Juneau be              
 given some time to work on being a better capital city.  Some of              
 the problems that need work, such as housing, require a long-term             
 investment.  Juneau is on the right track, but needs time to                  
 respond to the problems it has.                                               
                                                                               
 Number 402                                                                    
                                                                               
 JAMIE PARSONS, Former Chairman, Alaska Committee, states he is                
 opposed to SB 19.  Collectively, Alaskans voted against the Capital           
 Move Initiative this fall.  Recently, The Alaska Committee and the            
 Better Capital City Committee met and agreed to merge into one                
 organization with the mission of following up and seeing to                   
 fruition issues which will make state government work better for              
 all Alaskans.  Mr. Parsons requests that the Nineteenth Alaska                
 State Legislature give Juneau a few years of uninterrupted                    
 breathing room to allow the community to address some of these                
 issues: housing, land and air access, and electronic and                      
 telecommunications access.  To solve these problems, the community            
 and the legislature will need to work jointly.                                
                                                                               
 MR. PARSONS thinks there are more pressing problems the state                 
 should be dealing with at this time.  The last issue the state                
 needs at this time is one that pits different regions of the state            
 against one another.                                                          
                                                                               
 Number 432                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN adds that the previous several speakers hit upon two            
 problems that are also of concern to him.  A third problem he is              
 concerned with is transportation to Juneau.  Senator Leman states             
 that at this time transportation is as good as it has ever been,              
 but he asks Mr. Parsons what plans there are to help ensure that              
 good, competitively priced transportation will continue to be                 
 available.                                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 445                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. PARSONS replies that the Global Positioning System (GPS) will             
 eliminate at least 80% of weather interrupted arrivals and                    
 departures.  The Alaska Committee has been working with Alaska                
 Airlines on airfares and flight schedules, and will continue to do            
 so.  A representative from Alaska Airlines will be in town next               
 week to meet with the Alaska Committee/Better Capital City                    
 Committee.  The airfares now are very good.  We have recently been            
 made aware that the Alaska Airlines flight schedule is not as                 
 convenient for the legislature this year.  We contacted the                   
 airline, and as of February 1, the schedule will be changed for the           
 legislature's convenience.                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 465                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHARLES NORTHRIP, Director, Juneau Economic Development Council               
 (JEDC) and The Southeast Alaska Small Business Development Center,            
 states that many of the businesses he works with are engaged in the           
 housing industry.  Mr. Northrip states that measures like SB 19               
 make providing housing much more difficult, in that every time the            
 capital move issue comes up, it dampens housing development.                  
                                                                               
 MR. NORTHRIP also states there is a possibility that the GPS being            
 installed at the airport may increase competition by attracting               
 more air carriers to Juneau.  Since the GPS will decrease the                 
 incidence of flights being weathered in or out of Juneau, each of             
 which costs approximately $10,000, Juneau will become a more                  
 attractive destination for air carriers.                                      
                                                                               
 MR. NORTHRIP states the JEDC is working with building contractors,            
 the City & Borough of Juneau, banks, and realtors, and making                 
 housing its' top priority.                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 513                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS states that two-thirds of his constituents             
 want to move not only the legislature, but the whole capital.                 
 Senator Phillips believes citizen access is a real problem which              
 Juneau needs to address.                                                      
                                                                               
 Number 532                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHIP WAGONER thinks, in regards to Senator Phillips concern about             
 access to the capital city, Juneau's delegation in the legislature            
 would vote for a road out of Juneau, a communications system, and             
 a computer system.  Mr. Wagoner thinks Juneau will support access             
 issues if other members of the legislature will.  Mr. Wagoner says            
 he is speaking as a republican and wants the republican majority to           
 succeed.  However, he does not want the legislature wasting their             
 time on a capital move bill.  He wants the legislature to be                  
 promoting timber, logging, mining development, fishing, supporting            
 the University of Alaska deferred maintenance program, and perhaps            
 working on a food bank for Juneau.  Bigger issues, even to people             
 in Eagle River, are crime, budgetary problems, lack of development,           
 lawsuits with the federal government, the subsistence issue,                  
 reallocation of resources, etcetera.  Mr. Wagoner restates he wants           
 the republican majority to succeed, and concentrate with the                  
 limited time and funds available on the issues that count to                  
 Alaskans.                                                                     
                                                                               
 Number 560                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN asks Mr. Wagoner if he has seen the "Contract with              
 Alaska".                                                                      
                                                                               
 MR. WAGONER responds he has not seen it, but he has heard of it.              
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN asks Mr. Wagoner to take a look at the contract and             
 get back to him with comments he might have.                                  
                                                                               
 Number 570                                                                    
                                                                               
 BRAD PIERCE, Policy Analyst, Office of Management & Budget, informs           
 the committee he put together the consolidated fiscal note for SB
 19.  Although OMB took a fresh look at this issue, and did not                
 simply pull information from previous fiscal notes, the cost figure           
 is in the same ballpark as last year.  The estimated figure would             
 be about 2.6 million per year.  Mr. Pierce also informs members               
 that a revised fiscal note from the Division of Postsecondary                 
 Education has been submitted to the committee.                                
                                                                               
 TAPE 95-1, SIDE B                                                             
                                                                               
 Number 580                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN SHARP notes that SB 19 has considerable fiscal notes,                
 which will be scrutinized in detail in the next committee of                  
 referral, the Finance Committee.                                              
                                                                               
 SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS makes a motion to discharge SB 19 from the             
 Senate State Affairs Committee with individual recommendations.               
                                                                               
 Number 565                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR DUNCAN objects.  Senator Duncan states he wants to go on              
 record as objecting, and that he will recommend "do not pass" on              
 the committee report.  With that statement, he removes his                    
 objection.                                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 525                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN SHARP comments there is considerable difference between              
 the ballot question that was decided this fall and SB 19, and the             
 discussion is healthy.  But he also has constituents who complain             
 about accessing the capital.  Senator Sharp does not know how one             
 would solve that problem in a state as big as Alaska, or whether it           
 is solvable.  Senator Sharp notes that he has been fortunate in the           
 six years he has been in Juneau in that he has never had a problem            
 acquiring adequate housing; nor has he had a problem with                     
 travelling into or out of Juneau.                                             
                                                                               
 Number 512                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN adds that he has found the people of Juneau to be               
 very hospitable.  Since the capital move issue has reemerged, he              
 has noticed an increased attention to detail.  However, he has                
 noticed frustration on the part of people that government is                  
 inaccessible to the people.  Senator Leman suggests perhaps having            
 all day hearings around the state: bringing the legislature to the            
 people.                                                                       
                                                                               
 Number 487                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR DUNCAN thinks Senator Leman's suggestion is a good one, and           
 that a change in the Uniform Rules would be needed in order to do             
 something like that.  Senator Duncan says he would be happy to work           
 on doing that.  He would certainly advocate holding meetings around           
 the state.                                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 481                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR LEMAN comments he went with Representative Mackie and a               
 group of people to Prince of Wales Island.  That was a big deal to            
 the residents of the island.  We had a public forum, they got a               
 chance to express their concerns, and the people really seemed to             
 appreciate it.                                                                
                                                                               
 Number 473                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN SHARP, hearing no objection or further comments, orders SB
 19 released from committee with individual recommendations.                   
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        SCR  2 REIMBURSEMENT FOR TRAVEL TO CAPITAL CITY                       
                                                                              
 SENATOR SHARP brings up SCR 2 as the last order of business before            
 the Senate State Affairs Committee and calls the first witness.               
                                                                               
 Number 467                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS, prime sponsor of SCR 2, states the                    
 resolution would provide access to state government.  This is a               
 request to the City & Borough of Juneau to provide access to the              
 citizens of the state.  There are 5.3 million dollars in CBJ's                
 rainy day account.  By investing a few dollars in providing access,           
 Senator Phillips thinks the capital move issue, over time, will go            
 away.  This is another way of enabling citizens to have access to             
 the capital city.                                                             
                                                                               
 SENATOR DUNCAN asks Senator Phillips if people would be reimbursed            
 for travel to testify at all legislative committees, including                
 Legislative Council and Budget & Audit.                                       
                                                                               
 SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS replies it would include all committees.             
 Legislative Affairs Agency, through the Legislative Council, will             
 set up qualification criteria with the City & Borough of Juneau.              
 Whether or not airfare would be paid for people to attend the                 
 Legislative Budget & Audit Committee would be a policy decision               
 that would have to be made.                                                   
                                                                               
 Number 430                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR DUNCAN asks Senator Phillips if the City of Anchorage will            
 pay expenses for people who want to attend a meeting being held in            
 Anchorage.                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS thinks if the legislature was in Anchorage,            
 then the City of Anchorage should pay travel expenses for people to           
 attend hearings in Anchorage.                                                 
                                                                               
 SENATOR DUNCAN thinks many people are frustrated with                         
 administrative programs, and if a person has to fly in to Anchorage           
 from Sleetmute, shouldn't the City of Anchorage help pay for their            
 travel?                                                                       
                                                                               
 Number 416                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS responds most complaints he hears about                
 state government originate from programs administered in Juneau.              
                                                                               
 SENATOR DUNCAN thinks SCR 2 should apply to government programs in            
 every community in the state, not just Juneau.                                
                                                                               
 Number 403                                                                    
                                                                               
 JUDY ERICKSON, former member of the Alaska Committee, hopes if the            
 committee moves out SCR 2, an actual dollar figure will be attached           
 to the resolution.  We have homeless people here in Juneau, and as            
 a taxpayer, she has a problem with the legislature asking Juneau to           
 reimburse people to travel to Juneau.  Ms. Erickson thinks Senator            
 Phillips should poll his constituents on how many would want to pay           
 travel expenses for residents from other areas to attend the                  
 legislature if it was moved to Anchorage.                                     
                                                                               
 Number 386                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS says Juneau has to look at SCR 2 as an                 
 opportunity.  If only airfare is reimbursed, travelers will still             
 have to pay for meals and lodging.  Juneau can make some money off            
 SCR 2.                                                                        
                                                                               
 MS. ERICKSON responds videoteleconferencing would be a good step              
 towards better access.  The subject has come up before the                    
 legislature several times, but it has been rejected.  She believes            
 the people of Juneau would support helping fund                               
 videoteleconferencing.                                                        
                                                                               
                                                                               
 Number 360                                                                    
                                                                               
 JAMIE PARSONS, former member, Alaska Committee, thinks it is                  
 important to continue dialogue with air carriers.  He also thinks             
 videoteleconferencing would improve access for many citizens.  For            
 clarification, the City & Borough of Juneau has an obligation to              
 the community to have 10 million dollars in the Rainy Day Account             
 by 1997.  So the money used on the Alaska Committee campaign was              
 basically a loan that has to be repaid.                                       
                                                                               
 Number 343                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS asks how that money is going to be repaid.             
                                                                               
 MR. PARSONS replies more than 2 million dollars a year is coming in           
 from the 1% sales tax.                                                        
                                                                               
 SENATOR RANDY PHILLIPS asks Mr. Parsons why he does not think                 
 spending money from the Rainy Day Account will help Juneau fend off           
 the capital move issue.                                                       
                                                                               
 Number 338                                                                    
                                                                               
 MR. PARSONS responds more effect could be had by helping fund                 
 videoteleconferencing and emphasizing electronic access than by               
 using money for travel funds.                                                 
                                                                               
 Number 333                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHARLES NORTHRIP, Juneau Economic Development Council, states that            
 access isn't as simple as having airfare: access is a time issue.             
 Many people, even if they can afford a plane ticket, do not have              
 the time to come to the capital.  Mr. Northrip adds his support to            
 testimony already given supporting videoteleconferencing and                  
 improved airline service.  Mr. Northrip does not think SCR 2 would            
 be the best use of funds for improving access to the capital.                 
                                                                               
 Number 310                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN SHARP states the committee will be holding SCR 2 for                 
 further consideration.  The chairman reminds members that on                  
 Tuesday, January 31, 1995 the committee will be hearing SCR 4, SJR
 11, and SB 40.                                                                
                                                                               
 Number 302                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR DONLEY announces he has a proposal in the committee which             
 would amend the U.S. Constitution regarding campaign spending                 
 limits.  An amendment to the U.S. Constitution is the only way to             
 address this question.  Campaign spending limits are an appropriate           
 alternative to public financing of elections.  Senator Donley asks            
 for support and rapport on SJR 4 from other committee members.                
 Number 270                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN SHARP adjourns the Senate State Affairs Committee meeting            
 at 4:50 p.m.                                                                  
                                                                               

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